My saddle was a final project in Leathers 3. My advisor/teacher for the class, it was independent study at that level, said I would never be able to do my first saddle in one semester (5 months). Well, I did pull some all-nighters and several weekends, but I made it. As you can see it is not your basic Western saddle. Actually it uses a McClellan tree I got from a saddle found at a local flea market.